JPS Aspiring & Shelter Disciples

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JPS Aspiring & Shelter Disciples

Group Facilitated by: HG Vijay Venu Gopal Das & HG Premapadmini dasi to assist all aspiring& shelter disciples. They are senior disciples of HH Jayapataka Swami in charge of Disciple Care Forum.

Location: Worldwide
Members: 103
Latest Activity: Oct 16

Dear devotees,
Hare Krishna! All glories to Sril Gurudeva! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Welcome to this page for getting trained to be an aspirant/ sheltered devotees of HH Jayapataka Swami Guru Maharaja.

We hope to cover all the details required for you to qualify for this and we hope that this will be a very deep, meaningful and enjoyable experience for you. Please feel free to ask any questions or doubts or express your feelings and requirements as we go along. Please read the materials and learn them and do some home- work which we may give you from time to time.

The need for taking shelter of Guru:
No one can become self- realized simply by reading books. Getting extracted from Maya’s clutches is not easy. It is a path on which tests and difficulties are certain. No one can enter the kingdom of God on his strength alone. Therefore, all the scriptures emphatically state the absolute necessity for all spiritual aspirants to accept the shelter of a bona-fide spiritual master.

Srila Prabhupada has said: “In every step of one’s life the spiritual master guides… To give such guidance a spiritual master should be a very perfect man. Otherwise, how can he guide?... One cannot deny the order of the spiritual master. Therefore, one has to select a spiritual master by whose orders one will not commit a mistake. Suppose you accept the wrong person as a spiritual master and he guides you wrongly, then your whole life is spoiled. So one has to select a spiritual master whose guidance will make one’s life perfect. That is the relationship between spiritual master and disciple. It is not a formality. It is a great responsibility, both for the disciple and for the spiritual master.” (From a lecture given in 1966)

Within ISKCON at the present time, any disciple of Srila Prabhupada who is in good standing within the society and is approved to give initiation according to the society’s procedures may be approached and requested to initiate a candidate into Krishna consciousness. Some grand-disciples of Srila Prabhupada have also been approved for giving initiation.

“In good standing” means that he must have a clean record of following the regulative principles, daily chanting sixteen rounds of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra on japa mala, a good record of rising early and attending temple programs, steadiness in devotional service, and philosophical fidelity to the tenets of Krishna consciousness, and he must be working within the organizational framework of ISKCON as accepted by the Governing Body Commission.

An aspiring disciple should also see how much the spiritual master is attached to the process of devotional service and the preaching of Krishna consciousness.
The guru-disciple relationship is ,ideally, close and personal. Therefore, when selecting the person who is to be one’s spiritual master, one’s worshippable guide, there are personal considerations also. The teachings of all the bona-fide spiritual masters are the same, but each spiritual master has his own personality and approach to guru-ship.

Having formally accepted the shelter of a guru, the devotee continues practising Krishna consciousness as before. However, he now directs his guru-worship toward the guru he is taking shelter of, as well as toward Srila Prabhupada. He will now chant his own guru’s pranama –mantra(if any) when offering obeisances to his guru or when offering food to Krishna. Although he is not formally initiated, he has accepted shelter of a particular guru and starts to respect him as such.

At least six months after having formally taken shelter of a guru, a devotee may be initiated by him.

Apart from one’s own initiating spiritual master, one should continue to hear from and serve other devotees (especially senior devotees) in ISKCON. Although it is natural that one will have affection for his own guru, the Vaishnava etiquette is that one should treat the guru’s Godbrothers as respectfully as the guru himself.

If one has previously taken initiation from a person who is not bona-fide, recognized Vaishnava, then according to scripture that person must be rejected for the sake of accepting a bonafide spiritual master. People who are already have such “gurus” are often afraid to give them up, fearing retribution, but they need not worry. The scriptural warning against leaving one’s spiritual master does not apply in the case of bogus gurus, and this is stated in the scripture itself. Those who take shelter of a proper Vaishnava guru will certainly be directly protected by Krishna(see Srila Prabhupada’s purport to Srimad- Bhagavatam 8.20.1 for further discussion on this point.)

We will continue in our next letter soon.
Thank you very much.

Your servants,
Vijay Venugopal das & Prema Padmini devi dasi

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Comment by satyendra bir sharma on January 4, 2012 at 8:21am

guru maharaj ki jaiaho allglories to srila prabhupad and gurumaharaj, thank you i got my reply of choosing guru

 

Comment by Vijay Venugopal n Prema Padmini on October 20, 2011 at 7:02am

Hare Krishna!

 

For initiation you have to take the initiation test, which would normally be conducted by the temple authorities. We will try to find out who is teh authority for this in Juhu and let you know.

 

Your servants

 

Prema Padmini DD/ Vijay venugopal Dasa

Comment by Nehal Modi on October 18, 2011 at 10:48pm
Hare Krishna,please accept my humble obiesience,
I Am associated with Iskcon juhu,Iyf-Iskcon youth forum
I would like to know after taking Ashray from Guru Maharaja,should I have to give the initiation test?
If yes,is it to b given through the iyf authority or is it by other means?
In the loving service of GURU MAHARAJA..
Hare Krishna
Comment by Vijay Venugopal n Prema Padmini on March 1, 2011 at 9:45am

Hare Krishna , Manikantan prabhu! I just spoke to Guru Maharaja about your invitation. For now he said that he will not be having an extended tour of the Middle east. He is visiting Balaramdesh only to renew his residence visa and then will come back. But he said that he will be happy to give initiations through skype to the devotees there, straight away! So please let me know how many devotees are interested to take initation , and some suitable days and time when you could have it. He can also give a lecture on skype to all of you soon along with the intiation!

Do let me know soon. Your servant, Prema Padmini dd

Comment by Vijay Venugopal n Prema Padmini on February 10, 2011 at 9:43am

Hare Krishna prabhu!

Very happy to hear from you.

Very happy to know about your preaching. Will be meeting Guru Maharaja shortly. Will convey to him about your message and get back to you about his plans. Your servant, Prema Padmini dd

Comment by Mani Bhushan Krishna dasa on February 8, 2011 at 10:33pm

Hare Krishna

PAMHO

AGTSP

AGTGG

Dandavat Pranams Padmini Mathaji

I am Manikantan from Kuwait, Hope You remembering me?

How are you Mathaji?

Diwakar Prabhu told about your meeting at Bangalore and very happy to know  that you are traveling around the world for Preaching.

i was searching for your contact details.

Happy to see you from here again.

we wish to invite Maharaj again to Kuwait. we have number of Devotees wishing to take initiation from Maharaj.

Please guide me 

Your Servant

Manikantan

Comment by Paul Pitts Pavana gaura gopal on December 22, 2010 at 2:49am

PAMHO  Thank you JPS disciples team for the post about understanding Guru  It was most enlightening and succinct. I very much appreciateted it!

All glories to JPS discciples team.  All glories to Gurudeva and All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!  

Comment by Arun Upadhyaya on December 6, 2010 at 1:41pm
Hare krishna Vijay Benugopal Pravuji and Prema Padmini Mataji,
All glories to Srila Prabhupada and Guru Maharaj,

I am extremely sorry for not re[porting you about our Bhakti Vriksha programme in kathmandu.I had requested to Viswojit pravu to write to you and he told me that he had mailed you on yahoo address.But he told that he did not get the reply from you.So he asked me to mail you again for further guidance.
Pravuji we are now in 18th class.Till now we are about 16-17 persons.We are confused about how to divide the groups in two.Please kindly guide us.

Another problem is that since we all are working people,nowadays we are being able to make prasadam for class.We are depended on centres Brahamacharis for little prasadam.Finance is also being a problem.Like How much to donate?Whom to donate?How to manage?

Again I apologize for not to be in contact with for a long period and showing you only problems.
One news is from my side On the day after Radhastami Gurumaharaj granted both of us initiation at Mayapur.Our name is acharyaratna das(for arun) and Sidhhirupa radha devi dasi(for Sadhana).

Please continue to bless us and guide us.
Your servants,
arun and sadhana.
Comment by Vijay Venugopal n Prema Padmini on September 29, 2010 at 4:37pm
Hare Krishna prabhu! Hope you are doing well. Hope to meet you soon in October. Guru Maharaja is expected in November. Take care. YS, Vijay Venugopal das and Prema Padmini dd
Comment by Manoj Tiwari on September 28, 2010 at 6:40pm
Hare Krishna Mataji & Prabhuji,

This is Manoj Tiwari from Sohar, Mathuradesh seeking blessings of Guru & Gauranga through your mercy & guidance. All devotees are eagerly waiting for darshan of GM & your association.

Hari bol !!!

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